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October 27, 2008

Mikhail Seregine: ClayValet in hindsight

By Marcelo Calbucci
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Editor's note: This is a guest post by Mikhail Seregine on shutting down ClayValet.
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I just shut down my startup, 22 months after I started it in January ‘07. I want to tell you how I decided to close the company, what problems we encountered, and what I’ll change next time.

WHAT HAPPENED

ClayValet was an attempt to build a shopping recommendations business on top of Amazon’s Mechanical Turk, funded with seed capital from one angel investor. We created a website for shoppers to ask for and browse recommendations. Unlike search engines, our service was powered by real people, so we could answer ambiguous and detailed questions (within a day), and we could filter out useless answers.

Our website did not get much traffic. After several revisions aimed at improving usability and adding content, the metrics improved, but growth was still too slow. We tried to convert our recommendation service to a white-label product and sell it to online retailers, as a way to engage their customers and convert more sales. I didn’t close any sales. I explored the possibility of raising another round of funding to hire a sales team and develop this product, but our lack of traction was a problem for investors.

With a few months left in our runway, I focused on finding a potential acquirer for ClayValet. I contacted a couple dozen companies, and ended up having substantial conversations with three of them. In the space of a week, two of them went from lukewarm to actively interested. At the end of that week, all three told us that they would be happy to hire us, but “can’t structure the deal as an acquisition at this time.”

We could have continued to find acquirers, sell our service, or fundraise. At this point I’d tried all of the above, and didn’t think we had a good chance of success. Rather than burning through the rest of our funding, I decided to close the company and return the remaining cash to our investor.

MAJOR OBSTACLES

Overlapping learning curves
We were doing too many things for the first time. Before ClayValet, none of us had built a consumer website, promoted a consumer website, attempted enterprise sales, or run a company. It’s possible to learn everything, but learning is not instantaneous, and it detracts from focus and momentum. I found it hard to plan for a process I didn’t understand and to hire for positions I didn’t understand. One of the best bits of advice I’ve heard lately is “do mostly what you know, and change as few things as possible”.

The cold start problem
I drastically underestimated the difficulty of creating an audience for a new shopping site. Our recommendation service was new and often impressive, but it was in the end a feature and not a full shopping experience. Websites are easier to build today, but expectations are higher. Early user feedback slammed us for not having features that people had come to expect: conversations, profiles, a wider catalog, instant search. Shoppers wanted us to email them more. Shoppers wanted us to provide a more interactive service. Even worse, shoppers forgot about us because they didn’t often have the problem we offered to solve.

The process of enterprise sales
You want to have an “in” with your customers and a clear benefit, and even then the sales cycle takes months and a lot of engagement with the customer.  We were pitching an interesting but unproven feature that didn’t obviously solve a problem they cared about. We figured that out and adjusted the pitch, but we still didn’t have a credible track record to back it up.

TO DO NEXT TIME

Cofounder
Running a new company is a lot of work for one person, and having a great cofounder can drastically reduce risk. I would look for someone intelligent, trustworthy, pragmatic, and responsible, with experience that complements mine.  I believe that the choice of cofounder will be the most important decision in my next business, followed by the choice of market.

Advisors
In doing ClayValet, I met many experienced businesspeople: entrepreneurs, investors, domain experts, and more. I sought out their help, and when I ran into difficulties I’d ask a couple of people for their advice. This was much better than no guidance, but it was too sporadic: the people I spoke with only knew about my immediate questions, and they couldn’t help with “big picture” decisions because they weren’t observing the company regularly. Next time I’ll form a board of advisors who review our progress every month.

Planning
After doing so much for the first time at ClayValet, I can plan with more confidence. For example, I’m still no expert on enterprise sales, but I know roughly how long it takes, how buying decisions are usually made, and the kind of people I would need to help me. As always, there’s a balance: excessive planning impairs flexibility, lack of planning magnifies risk. I’ll be closer to the right balance next time.

Specific revenue model
In my initial business plan, I will have a specific target customer for our first sale. Waving my hands about markets and demand won’t cut it.

Distribution channel
In my initial business plan, I will have a specific distribution channel for reaching the next group of customers after the first sale. The distribution channel will not be “cold calling”, “word of mouth”, “organic traffic”, or TechCrunch.

ONWARD

I’m wrapping up some ClayValet business and deciding what to do next. I’m considering starting a new project, joining a local startup, or taking on some consulting projects.

Your Opinion: Like It | Dislike It
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By Mike Koss on October 27, 2008 03:34 PM
It seems like so much hinges on "marketing" and "distribution". If, going into a startup, you don't know how people are going hear about you, and how you will rise above the "noise" of all the potential competitors (direct and indirect), then you are essentially just rolling the dice (with not very good odds).

Just like building a prototype to prove a product idea, I think startups should prove their marketing and distribution plan to test the effectiveness of their customer acquisition strategy.
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By Marcelo Calbucci on October 27, 2008 04:56 PM
I agree. I think all of us (tech entrepreneurs) found out sooner or later that "build and they will come" is just a myth.

After Judy's Book failure, Andy Sack wrote many, many times about "customer acquisition" being the key.
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By Logan Bowers on October 27, 2008 05:18 PM
Thanks for such a concise and complete summary of what (not) to do when starting a company. Rarely do I see posts from the perspective of a developer-entrepreneur like you, yet most most folks I meet doing startups are former developers!

I can't wait to hear about your next venture!
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By Bryan Starbuck on October 27, 2008 10:58 PM
You are providing a great service for future entrepreneurs with your openness.

This shows you being a real asset to the Seattle business community.

-Bryan
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By Cliff Rudolph on October 28, 2008 09:01 AM
Thanks Mikhail. Looking forward to seeing your next project!
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By Martin Tobias on October 28, 2008 12:19 PM
Another aspect worth debriefing is how your experience stacked up against the simple competition. In my personal experience with the site, I received more relevant and quicker answers to my shopping query by typing it into google than by ClayValet. ClayValet showed me less results and were less relevant than basic google. When the generic tool is "good enough" your specific tool has to KICK ASS. My personal goal is 10X better than the competition. That is a reason for customer change.

Good learnings, keep at it.
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By Wine on October 28, 2008 02:27 PM
Heck, at least you are trying and learning.

"there is no such thing as failures, they are only Delays"
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By Daevid Vincent on October 28, 2008 09:52 PM
http://www.dangerouslyirrelevant.org/2008/07/we-learn-from-f.html

We learn from failure more than success
Samuel Smiles, a Scottish author, said:

We learn wisdom from failure much more than from success. We often discover what will do, by finding out what will not do; and probably he who never made a mistake never made a discovery.

Kenneth Boulding, an economist and systems scientist, said:

Nothing fails like success because we don't learn from it. We learn only from failure.
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By Justin on October 29, 2008 06:55 AM
It scares me that after one fails a startup, they go on to do consulting work. :> But its good that you are trying to learn from your mistakes.

Personally, I think you started out with a bad idea. As you realized this, you tried to change your sales pitch but the product behind it was still the same. Maybe your next start up should come in phases starting with a pilot project to test the idea.

In your summary of the idea, you say that "unlike search engines, our service was powered by real people...". But search engines are powered by real people. They look at media that real people create, analyze how real people organize it by relevance (links), and how real people use it (e.g. click through rates on ads).

The problem you were addressing may exist but the solution is probably better software for doing that analysis. If you don't agree with this statement then you believe the answers are not recorded yet. If this is true, maybe the product should be improved product review tools for companies to take feedback from customers combined with product info questions/answers the companies receive directly.

Then maybe there needs to be a tool that connects directly to these sorts of databases- my guess is its google. :>

What kinds of questions were you getting anyway?
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By Mikhail Seregine on October 29, 2008 11:25 AM
It's been quite a learning experience. Thanks to everyone for the positive comments.

@Mike, @Marcelo, @Justin: I didn't pay enough attention to distribution to do that kind of prototype.

@MartinTobias, @Justin: Yes, we were only better than Google in a limited set of scenarios and we didn't communicate that / set expectations clearly.
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By Paul Reisen on October 29, 2008 12:36 PM
In reading this article, I was impressed with the author's candor. He was frank about his failures, which seems like a tough thing to do in retrospect. Usually, people blame everyone but themselves and their idea. I think ClayValet is a cautionary tale: Don't offer any service that you can't explain to a layperson inside of 5 seconds. The idea was too wishy-washy...Anyone can Google a product for reviews, instead of some outside service like ClayValet. Better luck next time.

 
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